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Brendan
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Clarification of stock width

At the recent rimfire nationals, several rifles were rejected at the weigh in and stock check as the stocks did not conform with the rules. Some of the stocks concerned were actually supplied by one of the largest manufacturers of these things.

The rules on stock width for all classes of rifles apply to the WHOLE LENGTH of the stock - not just the forend. There seemed to be some misunderstanding of this rule. Our rules are based mainly upon the US rules and they are the same. The whole length of the stock must conform to whatever width is required for that class.

So, for light rimfire benchrest, the maximum width is 2.25 inches, and no more. Rule 4.6 says it all. Heavy rimfire stocks must conform with the rules for a heavy varmint rifle - 3 inches and no more.

It would be wise for all shooters to check their stocks before heading off for a shoot. You might not think that a coat of paint makes much difference, but it does.

BigStick
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What about the 18"

What about the 18" barrel Is this with or without a tuner?
Kim

Brendan
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Rule 4.3 ...any rifle not

Rule 4.3

...any rifle not having a barrel of not less than 18 inches (457.2mm) long, measured from the bolt face to the muzzle...

Can't get much clearer than that. The front of a tuner is not a muzzle.

BigStick
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Brendan In Brisbane you told

Brendan
In Brisbane you told me the state police rules over ruled the SSAA rule book
NSW police (barrel 40cm) SSAA barrel 18"
I would rule in favour of the SSAA rule book for SSAA comps.
Kim

BigStick
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BillNot confused. Brendan

Bill
In Brisbane there was a shooter with a very short barrel. I said to Brendan is that legal for SSAA and he said the legal length for the Police was 40cm so that would over ride SSAA
Not confused. .
I say 18" to shoot SSAA as stated in the rule book.
Kim

Peter Armstrong Mk1
Kim, I saw that barrel too

Kim,

I saw that barrel too and it was only about an inch or so past the end of the stock and if the SSAA rules say 18" it wasn't kosher and even if Police rules say it can be shorter that still doesn't make a barrel under 18" legal in SSAA matches.

Peter

RBA HoF #1 (2007)

Brendan
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The rifle in question was

The rifle in question was legal for the match - otherwise we would not have passed it. If there was genuine concern from any shooter, then a word to one of the shoot organisers would have clarified the situation. Better to do that than gripe about it on forums.

The barrel did look very short, but that was because the stock that Steve had put it into was actually a McMillan F Class type stock, and designed to be used with firearms having much longer barrels. I have photos of this rifle if anyone desperately wants them.

Just to clarify another point. Registered matches are run to the SSAA rule book. However, should a State law require something greater than what we require (eg a 20 inch barrel rather than an18 inch), then matches in that State would have to comply with the State law. If that State requires less, that's fine for general use, but the SSAA rules for that match apply.

So much for uniform gun laws.

BigStick
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Thanks Guys I didnt say

Thanks Guys
I didnt say anything on the record because I didnt want to pay the $30 protest fee.
Kim

JGA 2013
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Brendan is Right

Guy's Brendan is quite right about Steve's rifle. It was his barreled action from his Light Hunter / Bench gun and as you have been told it was in an F Class stock which made it look like a small barrel.

Kim you saved yourself $30 because you would have lost it,

Cheers

Greg

He who share's win's

spi200
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Stock to trigger question

All

Bill mentioned a rule that the length of the stock to the trigger need to be 13" inches or 30 cm, is there some more info on this as to which measurement it should be and exactly where its measured from. When I went to school 30cm was 12" inches and was the length of a ruler, so seems a fair length to me. I have shot last years state IRB and there was no one measuring stocks at the weigh-in.

Regards

Dave

Peter Armstrong Mk1
Dave, It seems it’s not a

Dave,
It seems it’s not a SSAA thing its a NSW police requirement that the length between the trigger and butt be no less than 30cm. I need to know exactly how they are going to measure it too my sporter is a little close.

Peter

RBA HoF #1 (2007)

spi200
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Stock to trigger

Thanks Bill

My son has a FWB 2700 and its pretty close to the 30 cm, particularly if measuring from the back of the trigger shoe. The FWB has lots of adjustments so I am sure I can come up with enough length, might be harder to make the weight limit. We shoot at Silverdale regularly (including last years Hunter Nationals) and never seen or herd of stock check, not to say it wont happen this year of course.
Sort of reminds me of a shoot we went to last year when right before the match the experienced shooter said it was a requirement to wear shooting glasses on this particular range and that checks were about to be made. We spent 30 mins looking for and cleaning up a pair of shooting glasses to use, only to find not one person on the line were using them. It was just crap said to put off other shooters on the line right before the match!

Dave

Aussiebob
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Barrel past front edge of rest

One thing some shooters will have to be very wary of is the rule that your barrel must extend past the fron edge of the rest.
B.14 Position on the bench:
The rifle shall be so placed that the muzzle extends forward of the bench and the entire receiver of the rifle is behind the firing line.
some of the people who sit at the back of the bench are pushed to reach.I know with my 2013 anschutz without tuner which i am told is not the muzzel anyway i have to sit well up into the cutout for the barrel to be past the front edge of the bench.

BigStick
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Can of worms

Looks like a big can of worms has been opened.
Kim

CHRIS-A
Hear one for you

One of the Highest scores shot in ssaa BR 30 [ gold award ]
was shot in the prone position using some form of rest
I think their only been about 5 gold shot so far

ROCK1

native hunter
Chris-A, I didnt think there

Chris-A,
I didnt think there was any gold shot on the BR-30 target, not outdoors anyway .??
Its a benchrest target and im told was designed to be shot outside.??
Not prone or inside.!!
That card has the potential to score greater than 3000 with the weight percentage added.
Regards
Native

CHRIS-A
BR 30

BR 30 is shot in doors and out
2400 get you a ssaa gold medal
The guy who shot it prone using a rest he shot it at orange out doors
the name knight comes to mine
I think the top score is around 3400
I sure would like to see how some of the top boys would go with one card
30 bulls in 15 minutes
good luck

ROCK1

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