G`day Rob, you never did finalise this subject. As at 8.30pm tonight{ Thursday} there were 6 users on line, of these 6 users Aussiebob and BRT were 2 of them and i have reason to contact both--if we had a chat room i could have contacted both at the same time--Please advise if you have considered this as an option and as i said before , i have no idea how hard it is to do--if it is too hard please advise me and i will "get off your back" LOL. Thanks, John.